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		<title>Tannoy HPD385喇叭系統(4)-單體解構</title>
		<description>Discuss Tannoy HPD385喇叭系統(4)-單體解構</description>
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			<title>站長Chris Chang says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[現在一對紅頭都不只USD$5000了，更別提銀頭，而且銀頭配對會很困難，當時是mono時代。]]></description>
			<dc:creator>站長Chris Chang</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>凱凱 says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[我這幾年追蹤的成果是，成對的 Silver 成交價沒有低於 $5000 的，成對的 AR1 品相好的了不起 $3500，我的 AR1 還是單隻買回的..一對連運費總共 11 萬多....]]></description>
			<dc:creator>凱凱</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>站長Chris Chang says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[也許吧，傑克的網頁也有類似推論。Tannoy的防塵罩真的很瞎，就算拔掉裡面也還有金屬網保護，我下一步打算把這層金屬網也給磨掉。 Tannoy Silver雖貴，AR1也不便宜啊。]]></description>
			<dc:creator>站長Chris Chang</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>凱凱 says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[有了 ~ http://www.myav.com.tw/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=267863&pagenumber=0]]></description>
			<dc:creator>凱凱</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>凱凱 says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[忽然想到，應該是 Red、Gold、HPD385 等等防塵蓋的網目較細，所以你拆了覺得差很多，Monitor 系列的網目較粗，可能會差沒那麼多吧？ 以前在 MYAV 看過一篇文章，網友 Bernard 敘述 AR1 的聲音特色還有眾網友到他家試聽，其中一位網友擁有 15'Silver，印象中他的感想是 AR1 有跟 Silver 一拼的實力....我一時之間找不到這篇文.. 當時看了文章後還真有一股衝動想買 Silver，但是看了價錢... 就算有錢我還真的很難買下去..]]></description>
			<dc:creator>凱凱</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>站長Chris Chang says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[這我也有想過，有空來試試，有啥心得再跟您分享。我已經請吳先生幫我再做一對擋板了。]]></description>
			<dc:creator>站長Chris Chang</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>凱凱 says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[那瀝青膠帶別用纏的，在管子左右貼 2 長條怎麼樣？]]></description>
			<dc:creator>凱凱</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>凱凱 says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[不是，我只是個拿鋤頭的而已 ~]]></description>
			<dc:creator>凱凱</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>站長Chris Chang says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[沒關係，以後有機會再說吧，您在台北工作嗎？]]></description>
			<dc:creator>站長Chris Chang</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>凱凱 says:</title>
			<link>https://www.labc3.com/index.php/speakers/2011-04-05-13-45-11/46-tannoy-hpd3854-2#comment-35</link>
			<description><![CDATA[AR1 放在東勢，但我一年回家沒幾次，有機會再說了..]]></description>
			<dc:creator>凱凱</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>站長Chris Chang says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[長知識了，謝謝您的資訊。您住哪裡呢？有機會可以見識一下AR1嗎？]]></description>
			<dc:creator>站長Chris Chang</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>凱凱 says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[AR1 我有，我還有一些備份的低音單體，去年好不容易找到了同樣式的滾邊低音，但還沒有機會換上.. AR1 是 86dB，但是他分音器的設計，轉動 755A 的 Pad 時分頻點也會跟著跑，所有背部有 Pad 可調的 AR 喇叭都是這樣..]]></description>
			<dc:creator>凱凱</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>站長Chris Chang says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[沒辦法的，現在PVC管塞進去已經幾乎密合了，箱子是張文俠先生的，我盡量不去修改。 您有收藏AR1嗎？有點好奇這對喇叭的效率是多少？Altec 755a本身約95dB，配上氣墊式低音是不是要在分音器衰減？]]></description>
			<dc:creator>站長Chris Chang</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>凱凱 says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[你音箱原本的開口是有深度的嗎？這樣就沒辦法了... 或是把瀝青膠帶延展，薄一點就可以進去了吧？]]></description>
			<dc:creator>凱凱</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>站長Chris Chang says:</title>
			<link>https://www.labc3.com/index.php/speakers/2011-04-05-13-45-11/46-tannoy-hpd3854-2#comment-30</link>
			<description><![CDATA[我在賣的振膜是給Monitor Gold用的。我認為Gold和HPD385是一樣的東西，差別只是在振膜懸邊和肋骨。很多人認為HPD385的肋骨很重，其實它是空心的，根本沒幾克，也就是說HPD385跟Gold的mms是差不多的，網路上很多資料跟我自己的測試都可以證明這點。您如果真的很在乎泡棉懸邊，可以買一對HPD385裝我賣的這種Gold振膜，一勞永逸，不過低頻響應會差一點。 PVC包瀝青膠帶我有想過，不過我用的PVC管太粗了，再包一層會塞不進箱子，現在聽起來也還好，等吳先生有空再請他幫我做一對3"PVC用的面板吧。 箱子方面，如果只是玩HPD385，建議Arden就很理想了，如果不介意土砲的話找人用樺木夾板做個220公升左右的箱子聲音更讚，不用搞背載號角。 您是AR的專家喔，難怪嫌LGM低頻不夠，試試HPD385吧，低頻直下20Hz的爽度，跟氣墊式拱出來的低頻是不太一樣的，有機會多交流。]]></description>
			<dc:creator>站長Chris Chang</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>凱凱 says:</title>
			<link>https://www.labc3.com/index.php/speakers/2011-04-05-13-45-11/46-tannoy-hpd3854-2#comment-29</link>
			<description><![CDATA[你如果要用 PVC 做反射管，建議裝上後，從音箱內部，把管身周圍用瀝青膠帶纏起來，我的 LGM 這樣做以後就聽不到反射孔的轟聲了，而且不影響低頻。]]></description>
			<dc:creator>凱凱</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>凱凱 says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[你要賣的 Kit 防塵罩是分開的啊？ 如果有機會找到 HPD385 的框架，我也蠻想玩的，不過磁通密度可能跟 Monitor Gold 不一樣吧？ Tannoy 的大箱子我聽過可以接受的是 GRF Windsor： http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/mr_kai94/photo?pid=874 RHR 也不錯，西敏寺就有點拖了。]]></description>
			<dc:creator>凱凱</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>站長Chris Chang says:</title>
			<link>https://www.labc3.com/index.php/speakers/2011-04-05-13-45-11/46-tannoy-hpd3854-2#comment-27</link>
			<description><![CDATA[我的HPD385防塵蓋早拆了，聲音差很多，我不是很在意痕跡，換過懸邊的HPD385防塵蓋應該都被拆過，玩古董音響潔癖不能太重。 :lol: Tannoy HPD385原廠振膜套件防塵蓋已經黏在上面了，因為它是整組，安裝時不太需要調整音圈位置。]]></description>
			<dc:creator>站長Chris Chang</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>凱凱 says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[恩 ~ 其實我當初的想法是找一對品項不好的單體，最好是高音的振膜還完好的，然後換上 Kit，不黏防塵蓋。 可是在 ebay 逛這麼久還沒找到。我這對 LGM 還沒過門以前本來是要跟一個香港人買的，他那對防塵蓋拆掉了，也願意寄到台灣，後來是我想我應該會很在意防塵蓋拆掉的痕跡而作罷。 看你要賣 Kit，沒想過要這樣嗎？]]></description>
			<dc:creator>凱凱</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>站長Chris Chang says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[網路上找一下Lockwood Audio。不過根據我的經驗，這家應該比你貼的那家還貴。剛剛仔細看了一下，它好像不是只換HPD385懸邊，而是把Tannoy後期硬邊振膜套件整套換上去。LGM似乎不值得這樣修，建議啟動無視大法，聲音真的沒差。]]></description>
			<dc:creator>站長Chris Chang</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 05:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>凱凱 says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[能否請你提供該公司的網址？我的 LGM 買回來時其中一邊單體的邊就破了一個洞，我找到這個網站： http://reconingspeakers.com/products-page/tannoy/tannoy-little-red-7900-0129-diy-recone-kit/ 可是他是連紙盆，好貴.. 現在是先用不乾膠塗上，雖然聽起來沒差，但心裡總覺得不舒服.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>凱凱</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 05:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>站長Chris Chang says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[聲音糊因素太多了，不能僅靠懸邊是否為泡棉認定，否則JBL一票15"單體豈不糊天糊地？ Tannoy 15"單體振膜和懸邊很多型號是可以共用的，英國有一家維修公司專門幫人把HPD385換成Gold用的布邊，而且似乎同一款單體前後期也會使用不同懸邊材質，所以Arden方框有不同懸邊是可能的。]]></description>
			<dc:creator>站長Chris Chang</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 04:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>凱凱 says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[我聽過 Arden，是方形框泡綿邊的單體，低音就是糊，天然磁鐵的 HPD385 倒是還沒有機會聽到。 音樂與音響的某一期把 Arden 抓來測試，上面的單體竟然是方框硬邊的，這樣低音應該會清晰很多，可是無論在台灣或是國外在賣的 Arden 我都沒看過單體是方框硬邊的.. 我有一對 LGM，對我而言最大的問題是低音的量不夠，其他都還好。]]></description>
			<dc:creator>凱凱</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 08:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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